Osho
A disciple knows no relationship with the master, he is simply one with the master.
A master is a door, a master is a gesture of the unknown, a master is a beckoning light - but not a person at all. An open door, an invitation to the divine - but not a person at all.
U r not supposed to surrender to the master. If u do it, it will be conditioning and u will miss the whole point.
Surrender happens; u find urself surrendering to the presence rather than person.
Soul - yeap. That's how I approach Sadhguru. He is a presence, a possibility and since I don't know him, there is not even a rship. I open myself up to his techniques. And when I surrender, I know I surrender to the possibility of techniques (me opening up to Universe) rather than surrender to Sadhguru. That's why I don't have the need to see him in person.
Osho
Surrender is happening. The disciple simply finds he is melting, he is disappearing. His boundaries are getting blurred, he is becoming cloudy - malleable. Great courage is needed.
Surrender cannot be done. It is whether u r open to allow it to happen whenever u find a presence of the divine on the earth.
Soul - that's exactly what happen. Surrender or experience of divine happens whenever I open to allow it. At times I receive knocks to open. But it is still me who open the door to me.
Osho
The master is not an authority. He merely points the way. If u cling to the finger, then it is ur problem, then u need to depend.
Authority is created by the need to depend. Tha master is not authoritative, but the disciple may be in search of authority - then he will create the authority.
You can create an authority anywhere - ur parents, spouse or even a book (bible), even a person who goes on denying authority.
Soul - now I understand why so many people reverred him. Cos in general 80 percent of people were raised on authority.
Osho
A master hits u hard to make u aware. Then ur awareness will do everything. He simply helps u to come out of ur sleep.
A real master does not mould u. He does not put an end to the question but he puts an end to u. He kills u. He kills u so that u can be that which u r destined to be.
Soul - so true. This is good especially since I jus agreed to be trained for Sathsang leader.
Osho.
Understanding is a totally different phenomenon than knowledge.
Understanding transforms your being - in understanding, ur question is finished.
Understanding is depth. Knowledge is shallowness.
Knowledge can be quantified - more or less, u can accumulate knowledge. But understanding is simply understanding. Understanding arises from no-mind
Knowledge is accumulated in the mind, it is the mind trying to be clever. And this mind can befool u immensely.
After years of accumulation of knowledge, they r still the same. Nothing has changed, their being has not been touched by it.
There is no pain, no growth n of course no surrendering. This made the ego more and more subtle and feels very secure.
Joy is not there. Playfulness is not there.
Soul - tell me abt it. I was gathering knowledge until mid last year I said enough, my mind is shitty n the more I accumulate, it still doesn't change me. It didn't make me more happy, it jus made me know why I m not happy.
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